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No. 13

Friday, December 12, 1997.

8.30 o'clock a.m.

Prayers.

Notices of Motions

Mr. Mockler gave Notice of Motion 68 that on Thursday, December 18, 1997, he would move the following resolution, seconded by Mr. Mesheau:

That an address be presented to Her Honour the Lieutenant-Governor, praying that she cause to be laid upon the table of the House a copy of the 30 page Request for Qualifications document regarding the Fredericton to Moncton Highway Project and the accompanying Criteria for Evaluation of Qualification submissions.

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Mr. Mockler gave Notice of Motion 69 that on Thursday, December 18, 1997, he would move the following resolution, seconded by Mr. Sherwood:

That an address be presented to Her Honour the Lieutenant-Governor, praying that she cause to be laid upon the table of the House a copy of the 1957 page Request for Proposals (RFP) regarding the Fredericton to Moncton Highway Project and the accompanying 282 written clarifications.

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Motion 46 by Mr. Volpé was, by leave of the House, withdrawn.

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Mr. Sherwood gave Notice of Motion 70 that on Thursday, December 18, 1997, he would move the following resolution, seconded by Mr. Volpé:

That an address be presented to Her Honour the Lieutenant-Governor, praying that she cause to be laid upon the table of the House a copy of the financial feasibility study regarding the Fredericton to Moncton Highway, contracted by the Department of Finance with RBC Dominion Securities.

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Mr. Speaker advised that the Standing Rules of the Legislative Assembly require two days' written notice and that Notices of Motion 68, 69, and 70, originally proposed for December 16, 1997, would be set over to December 18, 1997.

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Mr. Sherwood gave Notice of Motion 71 that on Thursday, December 18, 1997, he would move the following resolution, seconded by Mr. Mockler:

That an address be presented to Her Honour the Lieutenant-Governor, praying that she cause to be laid upon the table of the House all documents pertaining to the recovery and disposal of New Brunswick Liquor Corporation beverage containers received by the Department of the Environment, including the times they were received and who acknowledged the receipt.

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Mr. Mesheau gave Notice of Motion 72 that on Thursday, December 18, 1997, he would move the following resolution, seconded by Mr. Robichaud:

That an address be presented to Her Honour the Lieutenant-Governor, praying that she cause to be laid upon the table of the House a complete copy of the graphic presentation by D. Johnson of the Fredericton to Moncton Highway Project to Opposition Members on Thursday, December 11, 1997.

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Government Motions re Business of House

Hon. Mr. Tyler announced that it was the intention of the government that following second reading the House would resume the budget debate followed by resumption of the debate on the motions for second reading of Bills 7 and 14.

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Second Reading

The following Bill was read the second time and referred to the Committee of the Whole House:

Bill 17, An Act to Amend the Assessment Act.

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Budget Debate

The Order of the Day for resuming the adjourned debate on the motion (Motion 21),

That this House approves in general the budgetary policy of the government, having been read,

The debate was resumed.

And after some time, Mr. Speaker called to order Mr. Mockler, the Member for Madawaska-la-Vallée, for using cutout exhibits in debate. Mr. Speaker ruled that the use of exhibits in debate was not permitted.

And Mr. Speaker having recognized another member to speak on the motion, Mr. Mockler rose on a Point of Order, requesting that Mr. Speaker state the Standing Rule or authority that was applicable to his ruling.

Mr. Speaker referred members to Beauchesne's Parliamentary Rules and Forms 6th Edition, citing paragraphs 501 and 502, and Standing Rule 19.

Mr. Mockler was permitted to complete his remarks.

And after some further time, Hon. Mr. Graham rose on a Point of Order regarding certain remarks made by Mr. D. Graham as being contrary to the facts.

After listening to the intervention of other honourable members on the Point of Order, Mr. Speaker ruled that it is a well established principle that statements made by members respecting themselves, particularly those within their own knowledge, have been accepted.

Subsequently, Mr. D. Graham withdrew the remarks and apologized to the House.

And after some time, Mr. MacDonald took the Chair as Deputy Speaker.

During the debate, Mr. Robichaud rose on a Point of Order, stating that Hon. Mr. Richard's remarks implied that he was not telling the truth in the House and that the remarks should be withdrawn.

Mr. Deputy Speaker ruled the Point of Order well taken and asked Hon. Mr. Richard to rephrase his remarks.

Hon. Mr. Richard subsequently withdrew the remarks and apologized to the House.

And the debate being ended, and the question being put, it was resolved in the affirmative.

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Government Motions re Business of House

Mr. Speaker, at the request of Hon. Mr. Tyler, reverted to Government Motions for the Ordering of the Business of the House.

Hon. Mr. Tyler announced that it was the intention of the government that the House resolve itself into a Committee of Supply to be granted to her Majesty forthwith.

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Committee of Supply

The House, according to Order, resolved itself into a Committee of Supply with Mr. O'Donnell in the chair.

And after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the chair and Mr. O'Donnell, the Chairman, after requesting that Mr. Speaker revert to Presentations of Committee Reports, reported that the Committee, proceeding in the matter under consideration, had passed the following resolution:

RESOLVED, that the supply be granted to Her Majesty.

And he was directed to ask leave to sit again.

Mr. O'Donnell moved, seconded by Hon. Mr. Frenette,

THAT the House does concur with the Committee of Supply in the reports and agrees in its resolution that Supply be granted to Her Majesty.

And the question being put, it was resolved in the affirmative.

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Government Motions re Business of House

Hon. Mr. Tyler requested that Mr. Speaker revert to Government Motions for the Ordering of the Business of the House.

On motion of Hon. Mr. Tyler, seconded by Hon. Mr. Frenette,

RESOLVED, that consideration of Estimates in Committee of Supply be added to the Orders of the Day until such time as they are dispatched.

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Leave was granted to vary the hours of sitting to allow the House to continue deliberations through the lunch hour.

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Second Reading

Debate resumed on the motion that Bill 7, An Act to Amend the New Brunswick Highway Corporation Act, be now read a second time.

And the debate being ended, and the question being put that Bill 7 be now read a second time, it was resolved in the affirmative on the following recorded division:

                             YEAS - 31 
Hon. Mr. Lockyer          Mrs. Jarrett              Mr. H. Doyle 
Hon. Mr. Tyler            Mr. McAdam                Mr. Olmstead 
Hon. Mr. Graham           Hon. Mr. Byrne            Mr. Flynn 
Hon. Mr. Lee              Hon. Mrs. Kingston        Mr. DeGrâce 
Hon. Mrs. Barry           Mr. Allaby                Mr. O'Donnell 
Hon. Mrs. Breault         Mr. Duffie                Mr. MacDonald 
Mr. Blaney                Mr. Wilson                Mr. MacLeod 
Hon. C. Thériault         Mr. Kavanaugh             Mr. D. Landry 
Hon. Mr. Richard          Mr. Steeves               Mr. Armstrong 
Hon. Mr. Gay              Mr. A. Landry             Mr. J. Doyle 
Hon. Mr. Jamieson 
                             NAYS - 7 
Mr. Volpé                Mr. Mockler               Mr. D. Graham 
Mr. Sherwood             Ms. Weir                  Mr. Mesheau 
Mr. Robichaud 

Accordingly, Bill 7, An Act to Amend the New Brunswick Highway Corporation Act, was read a second time and ordered referred to the Committee of the Whole House.

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Debate resumed on the motion that Bill 14, An Act to Amend the Municipalities Act, be now read a second time.

And after some time, Mr. Sherwood moved in amendment, seconded by Mr. D. Graham:

AMENDMENT

THAT the motion for second reading be amended by deleting all the words after the word "that" and substituting the following:

Bill No. 14, An Act to Amend the Municipalities Act, be not now read a second time but that the order for second reading be discharged and the subject matter of the Bill referred to the Standing Committee on Law Amendments.

And the question being put, a debate ensued.

And the debate being ended, and the question being put, the amendment was negatived.

And the debate continuing on the motion that Bill 14, An Act to Amend the Municipalities Act, be now read a second time.

And the debate being ended and the question being put that Bill 14 be now read a second time, it was resolved in the affirmative on the following recorded division:

                                 YEAS - 27 
Hon. Mr. Lockyer              Mr. McAdam              Mr. H. Doyle 
Hon. Mr. Tyler                Hon. Mr. Byrne          Mr. Olmstead 
Hon. Mrs. Barry               Hon. Mrs. Kingston      Mr. Flynn 
Hon. Mrs. Breault             Mr. Allaby              Mr. DeGrâce 
Hon. Mr. Blaney               Mr. Duffie              Mr. O'Donnell 
Hon. Mr. Richard              Mr. Wilson              Mr. MacDonald 
Hon. Mr. Gay                  Mr. Kavanaugh           Mr. MacLeod 
Hon. Mr. Jamieson             Mr. Steeves             Mr. Armstrong 
Mrs. Jarrett                  Mr. A. Landry           Mr. J. Doyle 
                                 NAYS - 7 
Mr. Volpé                    Mr. Mockler              Mr. D. Graham 
Mr. Sherwood                 Ms. Weir                 Mr. Mesheau 
Mr. Robichaud 

Accordingly, Bill 14, An Act to Amend the Municipalities Act, was read a second time and ordered referred to the Committee of the Whole House.

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Hon. Mr. Robichaud rose on a Point or Order, his point of order being alleged unparliamentary remarks made by Hon. Mr. Graham during Oral Questions.

Mr. Speaker advised that he would review the transcripts and report back to the House if necessary.

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And then, 2.30 o'clock p.m., the House adjourned.

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The following document, having been deposited with the Clerk of the House, was deemed laid upon the table of the House pursuant to Standing Rule 39:

Documents requested in Notice of Motion 24                                                                              December 11, 1997
Performance Measurement Supplement to the Main Estimates 1998-1999                                   December 11, 1997



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