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No. 15

Wednesday, December 17, 1997.

8.30 o'clock a.m.

Prayers.

Question of Privilege

Pursuant to Standing Rule 9(2), and with respect to a Question of Privilege which arose during the sitting of December 16, 1997, Hon. Mr. Richard, the Member for ShediacCap-Pelé, gave notice of his intention to move the following motion, seconded by Hon. Mr. Tyler:

That the House call upon the honourable member for Carleton to apologize unreservedly to the House for purporting to quote from a letter a statement that did not exist, and that the honourable member be called upon to unreservedly apologize to the House for bringing disrepute to all members, including himself.

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Documents Tabled

Mr. D. Graham laid upon the table of the House the following correspondence:

1. Copy of correspondence dated September 24, 1997, from Dale Graham, M.L.A. to Hon. Bernard Richard, Minister of Education; and

2. Copy of correspondence dated November 27, 1997, from Hon. Bernard Richard, Minister of Education, to Dale Graham, M.L.A.

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Hon. Mrs. Mersereau laid upon the table of the House a document entitled "On the Move! 1997 Canada /New Brunswick Guide to Youth Employment and Career Development Programs".

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Government Motions re Business of House

Hon. Mr. Tyler announced that following the debate on Motion 73, it was the intention of the government that the House resolve itself into a Committee of the Whole to consider legislation; in particular, Bills 5, 3 and 14.

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Government Motions

The required notice having been dispensed with by unanimous consent, Hon. Mr. Frenette moved the following resolution, seconded by Mr. Robichaud: (Motion 73)

WHEREAS on September 14, 1997, nine Premiers and two Territorial Leaders agreed to a Framework for Discussion of Canadian Unity, commonly known as the Calgary Declaration;

AND WHEREAS a Special Committee of the Legislative Assembly of New Brunswick has consulted with New Brunswickers and has found substantial support for the Framework;

AND WHEREAS the Framework in no way diminishes the rights presently enjoyed by Canadians;

AND WHEREAS an informed and historically literate citizenry is essential for constructive debate on proposals to strengthen the Canadian federation;

AND WHEREAS New Brunswickers believe a strong and effective federation is achieved through the cooperation of all levels of government working to meet the needs of Canadians;

AND WHEREAS the Legislative Assembly of New Brunswick has a tradition of making important and useful contributions to the cause of Canadian unity;

NOW THEREFORE the Legislative Assembly resolves that the following principles be endorsed as an expression of fundamental values of Canadian society:

1. All Canadians are equal and have rights protected by law.

2. All provinces while diverse in their characteristics, have equality of status.

3. Canada is graced by a diversity, tolerance, compassion and an equality of opportunity that is without rival in the world.

4. Canada's rich diversity includes Aboriginal peoples and cultures, the vitality of the English and French languages and a multicultural citizenry drawn from all parts of the world.

5. In Canada's federal system, where respect for diversity and equality underlies unity, the unique character of Quebec society, including its French speaking majority, its culture and its tradition of civil law, is fundamental to the well being of Canada. Consequently, the legislature and Government of Quebec have a role to protect and develop the unique character of Quebec society within Canada.

6. If any future constitutional amendment confers powers on one province, those powers must be available to all provinces.

7. Canada is a federal system where federal, provincial and territorial governments work in partnership while respecting each other's jurisdictions. Canadians want their governments to work cooperatively and with flexibility to ensure the efficiency and effectiveness of the federation. Canadians want their governments to work together particularly in the delivery of their social programs. Provinces and territories renew their commitment to work in partnership with the Government of Canada to best serve the needs of Canadians.

Mr. Speaker, having read the motion, put the question, and a debate ensued.

And the debate being ended and the question being put, Motion 73 was carried unanimously on the following recorded division after leave was granted to dispense with the ten-minute time allotted for the ringing of the bells:

                                  AYES - 48

Hon. Mr. Lockyer            Hon. Mr. Gay               Mr. DeGrâce

Hon. Mr. Frenette           Hon. Mr. Jamieson          Mr. Volpé

Hon. Mr. Tyler              Mrs. Jarrett               Mr. Sherwood

Hon. Mr. Graham             Mr. McAdam                 Mr. Robichaud

Hon. Mr. Lee                Mr. Kennedy                Mr. Mockler

Hon. Mr. King               Hon. Mrs. Kingston         Mr. O'Donnell

Hon. Mrs. Barry             Mr. Duffie                 Mr. MacDonald

Hon. Mrs. Breault           Mr. Wilson                 Mr. Devereux

Mr. Blaney                  Mr. Smith                  Mr. MacLeod

Hon. B. Thériault           Mr. Kavanaugh              Ms. Weir

Hon. Mr. MacIntyre          Mr. Steeves                Hon. Mr. Valcourt

Hon. C. Thériault           Mr. A. Landry              Mr. D. Graham

Hon. Mr. Richard            Mr. Johnson                Mr. D. Landry

Hon. Mrs. Mersereau         Ms. de Ste. Croix          Mr. Armstrong

Hon. Mrs. Day               Mr. Olmstead               Mr. J. Doyle

Hon. Mr. Savoie             Mr. Flynn                  Mr. Mesheau

                                NAYS - 0

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Committee of the Whole

The House resolved itself into a Committee of the Whole with Mr. O'Donnell in the chair.

And after some time, the chairman declared it to be 12.30 o'clock p.m. and left the chair, to resume again at 2 o'clock p.m.

2 o'clock p.m.

During consideration of Bill 5, An Act to Amend the Motor Vehicle Act, Mr. Robichaud moved the following amendment to section 1:

AMENDMENT

In section 1, strike the words "or a rate of minimum speed" following the words "a rate of maximum speed".

The Chairman put the question and a debate ensued.

And the debate being ended, and the question being put, the amendment was negatived on the following recorded division:

                                      YEAS - 3 
Mr. Sherwood                   Mr. Robichaud            Mr. Mesheau 
                                     NAYS - 25 
Hon. Mr. Lockyer              Mr. McAdam                Mr. Olmstead 
Hon. Mr. Tyler                Mr. Allaby                Mr. DeGrâce 
Hon. Mr. Graham               Mr. Wilson                Mr. MacDonald 
Hon. Mr. Lee                  Mr. Smith                 Mr. MacLeod 
Mr. Blaney                    Mr. Steeves               Ms. Weir 
Hon. Mr. Richard              Mr. A. Landry             Mr. D. Landry 
Hon. Mrs. Day                 Mr. Johnson               Mr. Armstrong 
Hon. Mr. Jamieson             Ms. de Ste. Croix         Mr. J. Doyle 
Mrs. Jarrett 

During further consideration of Bill 5, An Act to Amend the Motor Vehicle Act, Mr. Robichaud moved the following amendment to section 3:

AMENDMENT

In section 3, subsection 72.1(1),(2)&(3), striking out the words "or interest, fees, or charges in relation to tolls" following the words "enforcement of the collection of tolls".

The Chairman put the question and a debate ensued.

And the debate being ended, and the question being put, the amendment was negatived on the following recorded division:

                           YEAS - 5

Mr. Sherwood          Mr. Mockler              Mr. Mesheau

Mr. Robichaud         Ms. Weir

                           NAYS - 31

Hon. Mr. Lockyer     Hon. Mr. Jamieson         Mr. Johnson

Hon. Mr. Tyler       Mrs. Jarrett              Ms. de Ste. Croix

Hon. Mr. Graham      Mr. McAdam                Mr. Olmstead

Hon. Mr. Lee         Hon. Mr. Byrne            Mr. Flynn

Hon. Mrs. Barry      Hon. Mrs. Kingston        Mr. DeGrâce

Mr. Blaney           Mr. Allaby                Mr. MacDonald

Hon. B. Thériault    Mr. Wilson                Mr. MacLeod

Hon. Mr. Richard     Mr. Smith                 Mr. D. Landry

Hon. Mrs. Day        Mr. Steeves               Mr. Armstrong

Hon. Mr. Savoie      Mr. A. Landry             Mr. J. Doyle

Hon. Mr. Gay

During further consideration of Bill 5, An Act to Amend the Motor Vehicle Act, Mr. Robichaud moved the following amendment to section 5:

AMENDMENT

In section 5, subsection 143(1) by striking the words "or for any class of motor vehicles", after the words: "the speed limit prescribed for the highway".

The Chairman put the question and a debate ensued.

And the debate being ended, and the question being put, the amendment was negatived on the following recorded division:

                                 YEAS - 0

                                 NAYS - 30

Hon. Mr. Tyler             Hon. Mr. Gay             Mr. A. Landry

Hon. Mr. Lee               Hon. Mr. Jamieson        Ms. de Ste. Croix

Hon. Mrs. Barry            Mrs. Jarrett             Mr. Olmstead

Mr. Blaney                 Mr. McAdam               Mr. DeGrâce

Hon. B. Thériault          Mr. Kennedy              Mr. MacDonald

Hon. Mr. MacIntyre         Mr. Allaby               Mr. MacLeod

Hon. C. Thériault          Mr. Duffie               Ms. Weir

Hon. Mr. Richard           Mr. Wilson               Mr. D. Landry

Hon. Mrs. Day              Mr. Smith                Mr. Armstrong

Hon. Mr. Savoie            Mr. Steeves              Mr. J. Doyle

The Chairman put the question that he report Bill 5 as amended and the motion was carried on the following recorded division:

                             YEAS - 33

Hon. Mr. Lockyer       Hon. Mr. Savoie         Mr. Kavanaugh

Hon. Mr. Tyler         Hon. Mr. Gay            Mr. Steeves

Hon. Mr. Graham        Hon. Mr. Jamieson       Mr. A. Landry

Hon. Mr. Lee           Mrs. Jarrett            Ms. de Ste. Croix

Hon. Mrs. Barry        Mr. McAdam              Mr. Olmstead

Mr. Blaney             Mr. Kennedy             Mr. DeGrâce

Hon. B. Thériault      Hon. Mr. Byrne          Mr. MacDonald

Hon. Mr. MacIntyre     Hon. Mrs. Kingston      Mr. MacLeod

Hon. C. Thériault      Mr. Allaby              Mr. D. Landry

Hon. Mrs. Mersereau    Mr. Duffie              Mr. Armstrong

Hon. Mrs. Day          Mr. Wilson              Mr. J. Doyle

                            NAYS -5

Mr. Volpé              Mr. Mockler             Mr. Mesheau

Mr. Sherwood           Ms. Weir

The Chairman having requested whether it was the pleasure of the Committee to take into consideration Bill 6, An Act to Amend the Highway Act, it was agreed, on the following recorded division:

                             YEAS - 33

Hon. Mr. Lockyer        Hon. Mr. Savoie          Mr. Steeves

Hon. Mr. Tyler          Hon. Mr. Gay             Mr. A. Landry

Hon. Mr. Graham         Hon. Mr. Jamieson        Ms. de Ste. Croix

Hon. Mr., Lee           Mr. McAdam               Mr. Olmstead

Hon. Mrs. Barry         Mr. Kennedy              Mr. DeGrâce

Mr. Blaney              Hon. Mr. Byrne           Mr. MacDonald

Hon. B. Thériault       Hon. Mrs. Kingston       Mr. MacLeod

Hon. Mr. MacIntyre      Mr. Allaby               Ms. Weir

Hon. C. Thériault       Mr. Duffie               Mr. D. Landry

Hon. Mrs. Mersereau     Mr. Wilson               Mr. Armstrong

Hon. Mrs. Day           Mr. Kavanaugh            Mr. Doyle

                            NAYS - 5

Mr. Volpé               Mr. Robichaud            Mr. Mesheau

Mr. Sherwood            Mr. Mockler

Mr. MacDonald took the chair.

Accordingly, the Committee took under consideration Bill 6, An Act to Amend the Highway Act.

During consideration of Bill 6, Mr. Volpé moved the following amendment to section 1:

AMENDMENT

In section 1, add to definitions: "holding".

The Chairman ruled the amendment out of order.

During further consideration of Bill 6, An Act to Amend the Highway Act, Mr. Robichaud moved the following amendment to section 3:

AMENDMENT

In section 3, subsection 3, striking the words "and those highways under the administration and control of the New Brunswick Highway Corporation or a project company", following the words "section 186 of the Municipalities Act."

The Chairman put the question and a debate ensued.

And the debate being ended, and the question being put, the amendment was negatived on the following recorded division:

                             YEAS - 8

Mr. Volpé              Mr. Mockler            Mr. D. Graham

Mr. Sherwood           Ms. Weir               Mr. Mesheau

Mr. Robichaud          Hon. Mr. Valcourt

                            NAYS -34

Hon. Mr. Lockyer       Hon. Mr. Jamieson      Mr. Johnson

Hon. Mr. Blanchard     Mrs. Jarrett           Ms. de Ste. Croix

Hon. Mr. Tyler         Mr. McAdam             Mr. H. Doyle

Hon. Mr. Graham        Mr. Kennedy            Mr. Olmstead

Hon. Mr. Lee           Hon. Mrs. Kingston     Mr. DeGrâce

Hon. Mrs. Breault      Mr. Allaby             Mr. O'Donnell

Mr. Blaney             Mr. Duffie             Mr. Devereux

Hon. B. Thériault      Mr. Wilson             Mr. MacLeod

Hon. Mr. MacIntyre     Mr. Smith              Mr. D. Landry

Hon. C. Thériault      Mr. Kavanaugh          Mr. Armstrong

Hon. Mr. Savoie        Mr. A. Landry          Mr. J. Doyle

Hon. Mr. Gay

During further consideration of Bill 6, An Act to Amend the Highway Act, Mr. Robichaud moved the following amendment to section 2:

AMENDMENT

In section 2, subsection 2(2), by adding the words "and with the consent of the Legislative Assembly," following the words "the Minister may authorize in writing,".

The Chairman put the question and a debate ensued.

And the debate being ended, and the question being put, the amendment was negatived on the following recorded division:

                              YEAS - 8

Mr. Volpé                Mr. Mockler           Mr. D. Graham

Mr. Sherwood             Ms. Weir              Mr. Mesheau

Mr. Robichaud            Hon. Mr. Valcourt

                              NAYS -32

Hon. Mr. Lockyer         Mrs. Jarrett          Mr. Johnson

Hon. Mr. Blanchard       Mr. McAdam            Mr. H. Doyle

Hon. Mr. Tyler           Mr. Kennedy           Mr. Olmstead

Hon. Mr. Lee             Hon. Mr. Byrne        Mr. DeGrâce

Hon. Mrs. Barry          Hon. Mrs. Kingston    Mr. O'Donnell

Hon. Mrs. Breault        Mr. Allaby            Mr. Devereux

Hon. B. Thériault        Mr. Duffie            Mr. MacLeod

Hon. C. Thériault        Mr. Wilson            Mr. D. Landry

Hon. Mr. Savoie          Mr. Smith             Mr. Armstrong

Hon. Mr. Gay             Mr. Kavanaugh         Mr. J. Doyle

Hon. Mr. Jamieson        Mr. A. Landry

And after some further time, Mr. Speaker resumed the chair and Mr. MacDonald, the Chairman, after requesting Mr. Speaker revert to the Order of Presentations of Committee Reports, reported:

That the Committee had directed him to report the following Bill as amended:

Bill 5, An Act to Amend the Motor Vehicle Act.

And that the Committee had directed him to report progress on the following Bill:

Bill 6, An Act to Amend the Highway Act.

Pursuant to Standing Rule 78.1, Mr. Speaker put the question on the motion deemed to be before the House, that the report be concurred in, and it was resolved in the affirmative.

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And then, 6 o'clock p.m., the House adjourned.



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